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- From: claevius@bluestem.prairienet.org (Brent Busby)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.emulations
- Subject: Re: Pentium Bridgeboard.....Would you buy one?
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- Date: 14 Mar 1996 12:30:57 GMT
- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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- Dave Cinege (dcinege@superlink.net) wrote:
- [...]
- : Pentium bridgeboard -
- : 75 - 166MHz Pentium CPU
- : Cache memory
-
- Excellent! I'd be interested. I think you should go for a 166MHz, or
- whatever speed is the fastest at the time you should decide to go ahead
- and produce it, since looking back over previous followups that have
- been posted, people seem to be aligning into two different categories:
- people who want a *bridgeboard* specifically, and would be willing to
- pay for what a bridgeboard gives; and people who are just seem to be
- looking for some kind of PC compatibility option and don't really care
- if it be a bridgeboard or a networked standalone PC or what... People
- who want a bridgeboard will pay for a good one.
-
-
- : 72 Pin simms
-
- This is wonderful. Especially considering that I am told there is
- currently a price war going on in the industry over 72-pin non-parity
- SIMM memory... That'd be good for the bridgeboard, or for anyone who
- wants accelerator memory for their CyberStorm or Warp Engine boards...
-
-
- : UVGA on board (that shares system ram, or has 2mb of it's own.)
-
- I have some concerns regarding this part, and it seems looking back on
- other peoples' previous followups, this is the part that has received
- the most concern from others as well. *My* concern with this is over
- the fact that most on-board video chipsets tend to cause problems with
- the XFree86 Xwindows implementation for Linux and other PC Unix variants.
- Running Linux/XFree86 is a very common application for a lot of people
- who use bridgeboards today, especially those who have Cyrix upgraded CPUs.
- I can remember at least one case in which someone I know installed XFree86
- on an older Packard Bell 486 system with an on-the-motherboard SVGA chip.
- It worked, but XFree86 would only operate in monochrome standard generic
- VGA mode, since it had no driver to support whatever proprietary chip it
- was that Packard Bell was using on the system board. An interesting thing
- about XFree86 is that its drivers do not support video *cards* per se; it
- supports *chipsets*. That is, you find out what kind of chipset your video
- display adaptor is using, select the corresponding driver (if there is one;
- if not, you're in The Land Of Monochrome VGA -- blech...), and when it runs
- it will be writing directly into the chipset's hardware registers. So I
- guess my concern is just that whatever kind of UVGA hardware it ends up
- having, it should ideally be either compatible with existing XFree86
- drivers, or should include a good, well implemented driver provided
- with the board. Other than that, anything that frees up an ISA slot
- is a great idea for us Amiga bridgeboard users of course....
-
-
- : 2 16550 serial
- : 1 EPP ECC parallel All on board
- : Floppy controller
- : EIDE controller
-
- Fantastic! I prefer SCSI, but if you're going to provide it on the
- bridgeboard itself, hey, I'm not *that* picky...
-
-
- : Features:
- : Works in the 2/3/4000, and 3/4000T.
-
- I'm an A3000T-040 user. Nice thing about the machine is it has *four* ISA
- slots, two of which are not in line with any Zorro slot. With all the stuff
- you're proposing to support on the bridgeboard itself, I could actually end
- up using some of those free ISA slots for other things, like a sound card,
- or ethernet...
-
-
- : Share Amiga mouse, keyboard, floppy.
-
- Just as the PCPrefs program included with the Janus software has an option
- to "Don't Load" the Janus-Handler segment, whatever cross-communication
- software this board ends up using should also ideally have a disable option.
- Without this, running alternative operating systems like OS/2 and Linux will
- be difficult or impossible, and a lot of us find that very important. Janus
- was really only designed for compatibility with MS-DOS and Windows.
-
-
- : Built in video switch for single monitor use.
- : Switch over to the IBM side and back with a hot key and icon/screen.
-
- Kind of humorous that Commodore put the jack on the back for that, but
- never got around to making the utility to use the bloody thing... :-)
-
-
- : A high retail price of $995 bare. (Meaning it will hopefully be a little
- : lower from your dealer) And say $1495 with 16mb and a 90MHz Pentium.
-
- Sounds good. People who really like the bridgeboard concept will not be
- comparing prices to standalone PCs. People who don't get it will.
-
-
- : How important would direct file transfer be to you?
-
- It'd be nice, but I'm already used to not having it under Linux and OS/2,
- so if it turned out to be DOS/Windows only under your board, I'd be used
- to that already. (Of course if there *was* a way you could implement
- that under all three environments, that'd be quite impressive!)
-
-
- : How about being able to share the Amiga harddrive? The IBM harddrive?
-
- Not important to me, but then my bridgeboard has its own private SCSI-II
- Seagate Barracuda 2Gig fixed disk. I guess that would probably explain why.
-
-
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